EP 037 Phil Stutz and Barry Michels Return to Talk about Coming Alive

This is an unpodcast episode, consisting of a transcript only. Read the full interview over at

Today on Startup Geometry, we’re talking with Phil Stutz and Barry Michels, authors of the new book Coming Alive. Since we last talked to them, they’ve been keeping busy with their highly successful psychotherapy practices, where much of their clientele consists of Hollywood creative professionals; running multiday retreats and seminars; and writing their second book, which deals with Part X, the self-sabotaging part of ourselves, the devil inside. When we’re able to overcome Part X, we become more engaged with life, more creative, and happier.

As one might expect with a discussion about inner sabotage, we experienced technical difficulties with the audio version of this interview. We were able to recover almost all of the contents of the interview in the print version below.

Special thanks go out to the members of The Tools Facebook Group, who asked some amazing questions about how the Tools can be used in very particular and challenging situations.

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